
The second design of French military officer Alfred Groos. Produced in 1909, a small monoplane which was named “Quand même” [“Nevertheless”].
It was tested on 30 July 1909 as it flew about 100 meter with a speed of 55 km/hr at a height of ca. 2 meter. When it came down one part of the wing was damaged and the propeller broken. The monoplane had a four-wheel undercarriage (2 bigger in front and 2 small ones behind) and a very simple “fuselage” – about one piece of wood – and was powered by a 25 hp Anzani.